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Final count: Obama 339, McCain 147. - Portrait of a Young Man as The Artist — LiveJournal
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Final count: Obama 339, McCain 147.
Damn, Coleman beats Franken by 762 votes. Also, looks like Prop 8 is gaining ground (I don't understand people....).
WHY DID STEVENS (ostensibly) WIN?

So... Pretty good night. I can't believe CNN called it the second the west coast closed but, yeah, it was essentially over after Ohio.
Wish I was at Grant Park last night. <waits patiently for ralinad's photos>






SO. How are you?
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brdgt From: brdgt Date: November 5th, 2008 02:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
Damn - I hope Minnesotans are beating up anyone who didn't vote! I wonder if there will be a recount?
abmann From: abmann Date: November 5th, 2008 02:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, Minnesota law dictates a recount when it is that close. I see no news on a concession from either side yet.
assfingers From: assfingers Date: November 5th, 2008 02:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
I haven't had a chance to get to checking about the non-presidential elections, so thanks for posting about Franken. That was going to be one of the first I looked at.
abmann From: abmann Date: November 5th, 2008 02:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
WHY DID TED STEVENS WIN???
assfingers From: assfingers Date: November 5th, 2008 02:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, that one I do NOT get and am not a fan of whatsoever.
abmann From: abmann Date: November 5th, 2008 02:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
Woo censure?
jackshoegazer From: jackshoegazer Date: November 5th, 2008 02:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
Alaskans love Ted Stevens. He has done a LOT for Alaska. They love him there. It would be like not electing Santa Claus.

However, he is most likely going to prison for a bit. He will have to abdicate his seat, which means a special election to fill the position, which means, we haven't seen the last of Sarah Palin.
darkskywatcher From: darkskywatcher Date: November 5th, 2008 02:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, a hand recount is in the works here. However, it is going to take two weeks to even get the ball rolling on that process. Also, Franken has already raised the spectre of litigation connected to the race, specifically related to any discrepancies he can find in the process. I dont know about anyone else here, but I'm having a series of nasty Florida '00 flashbacks.

Ted Stevens won because he has been bringing tens of millions of dollars to the state for more than forty years. Public opinion will sour really quickly on him when they realize that he won't be able to do that anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if he resigns suddenly in a year or two, quite possibly under pressure from the governor.
abmann From: abmann Date: November 5th, 2008 02:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
Alaska makes me sad.

I'm torn about Franken. I want him to win but I don't want to see a drawn-out legal battle. It is distasteful for all involved.

How did you react when CNN called it as soon as the west coast closed?
assfingers From: assfingers Date: November 5th, 2008 02:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
a filibuster-proof majority would be nice. a recount is obnoxious for everyone.
and, frankly, i think in this administration it'd actually not be a horribly bad thing to give up that filibuster to keep the dem's version of rush limbaugh out of the senate.
jackshoegazer From: jackshoegazer Date: November 5th, 2008 02:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
56-58 depending on the outcome of a few more races isn't bad. We can still kill filibusters with just a couple extra non-Dems. We've always got the Bernie Sanders vote, and we often get the likes of Chuck Hagel and other moderate Pubs. I think we'll be good. And if we kick some ass over the next four years, we can solidify our majority in 2012.
abmann From: abmann Date: November 5th, 2008 03:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm not convinced Dems have earned a super majority yet. If they stop bickering and work with Republicans and Obama, I'm all for it. But, you know.. whiny bitches.
darkskywatcher From: darkskywatcher Date: November 5th, 2008 06:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
Dude, have you looked at the last Congress? It is one of the most bipartisan in our lifetimes, with the Democratic leadership doing just about everything it can to build a big tent and compromise. Though I didn't like the measure itself, the bailout was probably the best example of this.

The PROBLEM is that this administration has decided that it has nothing to lose by vetoing almost everything that it doesn't like. This always makes getting legislative work done much more difficult.
darkskywatcher From: darkskywatcher Date: November 5th, 2008 06:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'll be honest: I didn't vote for Franken. While I do prefer him to Coleman, I just can't stomach the thought of him, with no effective experience and an at best questionable temperament, as my Senator. And in talking litigation, he sees to be reinforcing my unease that he was ever an acceptable candidate.

I was talking to several people and getting massive amount of info before the West Coast polls closed, and two of the them pointed out when Obama's delegate count hit 200 that the West Coast was going to put Obama over the top. And I intellectually acknowledged that they were right: The Pacific Coast is rarely red(at a Presidential level anyway), especially in a year like this. So I sort of knew it was coming, but I was really still focused on the fights in the east, in VA, NC, and IN.
tyskkvinna From: tyskkvinna Date: November 5th, 2008 02:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't think anybody was REALLY expecting a surprise from California, Oregon or Washington... And the numbers I was watching pretty much had Obama just waiting on California and everything else was gravy.

But it still caught me so offguard! One minute I'm biting my nails waiting waiting waiting GAH WAITING! And then hey, look, he won.
abmann From: abmann Date: November 5th, 2008 02:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
My immediate response was, "Wait, what? Already?" Then, "No way, it's too early."

Then, "Squee!"
assfingers From: assfingers Date: November 5th, 2008 02:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
When we got home and Ohio was already in the bag, I was like "hooray we can mute olbermann and wait for the speeches".

this one was over before it began, seems like.
abmann From: abmann Date: November 5th, 2008 02:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
I wasn't willing to call it after Ohio. If McCain won Florida, he still had a shot. A very, very, very, very, very small one, but still had one.
assfingers From: assfingers Date: November 5th, 2008 02:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
Doing the math, 207 + a guaranteed 55 in California and some VERY VERY LIKELY wins in places like Oregon/Washington/Hawaii and the battleground states that were still open didn't matter much at that time.
abmann From: abmann Date: November 5th, 2008 03:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
I guess I'm not as optimistic than you. Sure, California was probably a lock but Oregon could.. Um.. Washington traditionally.. Er. Maybe they'd both? Um..?

Ok, I just didn't want to get my hopes up like the last two elections.
dkountz81 From: dkountz81 Date: November 5th, 2008 04:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
yeah, I was at a friend's place watching coverage on BBCA and David Dimbleby, the anchor, was totally shocked. They had just finished talking about the importance of Ohio and why the projections hadn't come in like an hour after the polls closed, and he looked up at the camera and says, "Well, FOX news, which is normally more concervetive, has just called Ohio for Obama." I thought he was going to fall out of his chair.
The whole election wasn't called for me at that point, rather just the idea that this could actually happen. I'm still giddy, it's awesome.
jackshoegazer From: jackshoegazer Date: November 5th, 2008 02:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
abmann From: abmann Date: November 5th, 2008 02:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
Does that make Obama TJ Combo?
kiwikat From: kiwikat Date: November 5th, 2008 03:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
I can't believe the Franken race is that close, and that Stevens might still win. WTF. If you don't get out of office for massive corruption what DO you get out of office for?
tener_duende From: tener_duende Date: November 5th, 2008 04:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
Suggesting homosexuals might not be the filthy spawn of Hell who are planning on surrending America to the Muslims and ruining our children, probably.
zesty_pinto From: zesty_pinto Date: November 5th, 2008 05:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't understand, so here's Obama with a pancake on his head?

Prop 8 is freaky. It looks like it's actually going to get passed. I might take a vacation from LJ just to get away from delennamachoo's blast radius.
kaylithin From: kaylithin Date: November 6th, 2008 12:24 am (UTC) (Link)
How am I? Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Also, why does Obama have a pancake on his head?
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