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People.

Dear god, people. Joy Cardin held a straw poll/vote for president call in show. Anyone would go, past candidates, present candidates, crazy people. There were a number of votes for Jasper the House Cat but that didn't bug me (barring the "throw your vote away" feelings I have). Some one called into say that she would vote for Hillary Clinton because she was a Scorpio with a moon in... some house I can't recall suffice that it made her wise.

I became surprisingly agitated over that. Would people seriously vote for a candidate that had a sympathetic star sign? Seriously? Aren't there more important things out there than having extra moons in your ninth house??

Sigh. I suppose this stems from my general distaste for people that are uninvolved with the world around them. Forget the world, people seem patently, even proud to be unaware of even local goings-on. How is this possible? Do they even ignore the occasional news paper dispenser on the street?

I don't think I'll ever understand. Sure, politics can be confusing and obfuscated. Politicians lie, cheat and/or steal but if you're aware of it you can change it, right? isn't that the point?

So. If the vote were held today who would you chose? I don't care if you're a democrat, republican, green or totalitarian. I'm curious. But if you're republican, I may make fun of you. :)

I'd vote Gore, maybe Kucinich. At least Gore would do something about environment which is my biggest issue right now. Kucinich as well but I'm still wary of his ability to be a strong leader.
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suibhne_geilt From: suibhne_geilt Date: January 18th, 2007 02:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
Today? I'd be all over an Edwards/Kucinich ticket. I agree with you that Kucinich doesn't have that leadership groove to him, but he's got some solid beliefs that I like.

I was impressed with Edwards in '04, and think the worst mistake the Dems made that year was ignoring Edwards' sharp dynamic presence, and putting all their attention behind the Blandy McBlandpants "electable" candidate.
abmann From: abmann Date: January 18th, 2007 02:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
hhhraaaah!

I do like Edward's stance towards corporations and business in general. he wants them to be accountable for their products. Gasp! Zounds! How can you make a profit I you care???

Not an Obama fan?
suburbaknght From: suburbaknght Date: January 18th, 2007 02:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
McCain. Closest thing we've had to a real republican in years.
abmann From: abmann Date: January 18th, 2007 02:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
It doesn't worry you that he is a really frightening traditionalist (get in the kitchen, bitch and make me a baby)and insidious pro-lifer? Plus he's got some.. um.. interesting views on war and terrorism.
nidea From: nidea Date: January 18th, 2007 02:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
Obama in another 4, 8 years. Feingold! But he's being a good senator -- perhaps he will run some day? Not Hillary, she is scary. Edwards, sure. Gore, ok. Kucinich, like you said, can he be a strong leader? A uniter, not a divider? :) There are a couple of declared candidates that I don't know much about too. We'll see about them.
abmann From: abmann Date: January 18th, 2007 02:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
Russ is iffy. But God I love him. I don't know if I want him to stop representing me in the Senate. Do you think he'd have a real chance at winning though?
fencert From: fencert Date: January 18th, 2007 03:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
If Obama wants to run this time around I'd support him. We need a leader we can really believe in and I think he captures a lot of people's imaginations. I'd hate to see him run and lose, thus losing face and losing his aura of destiny. If he runs, he must win. (Then we can have an Obama-O-Rama.)
abmann From: abmann Date: January 18th, 2007 03:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
Who would you have for his Veep?
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abmann From: abmann Date: January 18th, 2007 03:55 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: so, here is my take.

You sir, are awesome.

I would love to back an Edwards/Gore ticket or vice versa. Though I don't know enough about Edwards to want to see him in the top spot.

That he would bring votes from the south is huge for a democrat. Adding Gore would get you The west coast and much of the east. Most of the Midwest likely wouldn't care for either though. Gore doesn't have any obvious stance on farming or other rural issues,and I'm not sure about Edwards. History says, though, that Gore would eek out some swing states in the midwest.

Maybe an Edwards/Clinton ticket? That could be interesting.
moocowrich From: moocowrich Date: January 18th, 2007 05:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
Whatever nutjob my party put forward, in hopes that some day we'll get 5% of the vote.
abmann From: abmann Date: January 18th, 2007 05:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
Your party? Greens or Farm Animals?
annan_dum From: annan_dum Date: January 18th, 2007 08:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think a Gore, Obama ticket would be a sure-fire. I'd vote for them. I'd campaign for them. Heck, I'd cast spells for them if they wanted me to. And I don't care if Hilary is a Scorpio, I think she'd be a lousy President.

Although admittedly I would *love* to have Bill referred to as "The First Lady," which is actually the title of the presidential spouse at present regardless of gender. I'm sure that would change but still...First Lady Bill Clinton...hee hee!
lerite From: lerite Date: January 18th, 2007 08:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
Politics is confusing and I spend my reading time on other things. I apologize for not-knowing by voting for whoever my parents want me too, because they are both mature, VERY educated, attention-paying, liberals.

That said, if I could vote for a fantasy ticket... Feingold. I mean, I understand that he probably can't win. But it makes me sad that he can't, and I'd want to be able to say I voted for him.
From: e_hmm Date: January 18th, 2007 11:35 pm (UTC) (Link)

no clever sociopolitical insight

just saying "hey. how is the cold?"
abmann From: abmann Date: January 19th, 2007 12:07 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: no clever sociopolitical insight

Which? The virus of the weather?

I suppose I could demonize the winter here and call it like a virus, but I like it. I just prefer mother nature take her meds; I'm not one for the schizophrenia. It's Warm, it's cold; it's sleeting; it's drought. Worse than menopause, I imagine.

My head cold is mostly gone. I maintain adamantly snuffly though, much to the lament of coworkers.
lady_fox From: lady_fox Date: January 21st, 2007 09:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
Edwards/Kucinich.

I agree with everything that's been said about Edwards. He's got the charisma, he's got the pretty, and he'd get the southern states. Kucinich would speak to the more out-there liberals (like me!) and I agree with pretty much everything I've seen from him in terms of politics.

And, he's scrappy.
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