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Portrait of a Young Man as The Artist
Oh man... MacBook just put on my desk.
Must. Retain. Pants.
And I passed my last certification test. (I'm now certified in 9 apps at work)
Well today has rocked for me what hard.

Current Mood: excited excited

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andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: January 12th, 2007 06:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
What is it about macs... that make people falsely believe that they are:

(a) good
(b) any good
(c) any good at all

abmann From: abmann Date: January 12th, 2007 06:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
What are you talking about? Where am I saying or implying this?
(My computer is sexier than yours)
andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: January 12th, 2007 06:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm all about giving the Mac and Apple its due credit... but that credit ends in about 1987.
abmann From: abmann Date: January 12th, 2007 06:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm pretty sure you lamely dodged both my questions.
andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: January 12th, 2007 06:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
Dear Sir or Madame,

Perhaps you can explain to me where you answered my initial question in your response.

thank you kindly,

the management

cc: Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak
abmann From: abmann Date: January 12th, 2007 06:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
I stated no where that I'm good. I have said that there is a MacBook on my desk and that I must retain my pants. I believe all I've implied is that the MacBook may, somehow, make me lose my pants.

Your turn, honkey.
andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: January 12th, 2007 07:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
I wasn't necessarily addressing my queries regarding macs at you as a purveyor of these attitudes, specifically.

Perhaps I was just hoping you maybe able to shed some light on this subject.

Maybe I'll stop using my "extra" mouse buttons for a while and give this whole mac craze a spin.

cc: gary sinise, gary busey

abmann From: abmann Date: January 12th, 2007 07:07 pm (UTC) (Link)

That I can answer. It's a counter culture. People enjoy sticking it to the man; in this case, that's Bill "I like Squirting" Gates. Plus, Apple has this slick-as-shit exterior that makes everyone believe they're less corporate than anyone else, that they care about their customers.

To some degree this is true given how they design UI. It's average-people centered.

As for me, I'm just excited to have an easier photography workflow.

Plus, dude. It's a sexy little machine. And I like new computers. Especially for how much I spent on this.

The lack of extra mouse button is weird. But my mouse has six buttons and no wires at home. :)
andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: January 12th, 2007 07:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
(1) The mouse button thing just seems needlessly obstinate given that they have a function key on the keyboard and you can double click by holding two fingers on the touch pad and clicking the button with your thumb.

How on earth is holding two fingers on the touch pad and clicking the button with your thumb "better" than having a second mouse button?

(2) I'm from the control_group school of computer users. We want our exteriors to be gray, flat and boxy. We do not want a significant portion of the design of the computer to be spent on how the case looks that don't directly influence performance (i.e. airflow considerations). We don't want a big light on the back of our laptop that drains the battery for no reason beneficial to the end user. We don't want the company budget to be spent on Jeff Goldblum narration. These are the major tenants of the control_group school of computers.

(3) I will not deny the case designs are sexy. They are. However, when you factor in cost... it always seems like I can build 2 fairly comparable moderate to high-end PCs for the price of one moderate to high-end Mac.

abmann From: abmann Date: January 12th, 2007 07:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
1) Excellent points. Also taping the touch pad by default doesn't click. This makes more sense, I suppose, as most people palm-slap it a lot.

I believe Mac is acting as if your finger is actually the pointer. The finger is the pointer adn clicking is a different action. Therefore, the two finger becomes a secondary action? Maybe?

2) Ok. And I like something sleek. I don't think Apple sacrifices performance and ability with their design, though. I'd say it provides a chance for innovation in internal component structure and design.

3) True. For me, the extra money justifies the integration and interoperability provided in the software and third party equipment. PCs just can't do this.
andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: January 12th, 2007 07:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
1) Tapping the touch pad = no click is good. That's the first thing I try and turn off whenever I get a new laptop. I am in favor of this.

2) It's not about sacrificing performance of the system, it's about sacrificing a portion of their budget on what I imagine they must call The Style Team. I believe those resources could be better spent elsewhere. But if you don't, all power to you, good sir.

In regard to point #3 as a clarification:

I'm not necessarily arguing that macs are over-expensive... given the amount of software they bundle with the OS (as opposed to windows which basically comes with Solitaire and Calculator). It's just that I don't want to be forced to buy all of the software given that I'll likely use very little of it; particular when much of what they require you to buy can be found as free-ware applications on other architecture. They could unbundle a lot of it and sell 2 tiers of systems, but that might encourage third party developers to make more mac software, and they don't want that.

Addendum for clarity: Jeff Goldblum sucks.
abmann From: abmann Date: January 12th, 2007 07:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
1) Ah, see I like the tap click. It's faster for me. Clearly, you're a dirty palm-checker.

2) Do you think this is the case considering that they haven't changed the design of most of their computers in two years?

What about the innovations that have come from their designs in monitors alone? They really piloted the flat screen LCDs, I believe.

3) I also think Windows should do that. First thing I do with a new PC is uninstall Solitaire. :) Then I turn off the bazillion services that I'll never use and that are eating my memory.

Reasonably, Apple bundles their life software and target most of their computers to families. I'd say something like the MacBook Pro should be bundled with iWork rather than iLife to distinguish it as a professional computer outside of name alone. However, it's likely marketing. iLife users generally buy a .Mac account which is constant revenue for Apple.

I should also point out that both iWork and iLife are only $80 and can't really be a substantial cost additive.

What put the fly in your Goldblum ointment? (I'm so funny!)
andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: January 12th, 2007 07:57 pm (UTC) (Link)

iComment, from iAnda.

1: Clearly.
2: That may mean they're spending the money coming up with dumb and unusable exterior designs for things... which is even worse.
3: Agree.

#: I hate the iNaming scheme.

I can hate whomever I want!

What it ultimately comes down to for me, I think, is that I necessarily believe that the software manufacturer and the hardware manufacturer should be separate companies, or things are going to happen that adversely affect me as the consumer.

phoenix_snake From: phoenix_snake Date: January 12th, 2007 07:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
This thread made me laugh. Good job both of you.
devianttouch From: devianttouch Date: January 12th, 2007 06:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
Nah. Pants are unnecessary in the presence of new MacBooks.
abmann From: abmann Date: January 12th, 2007 06:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
Work may complain though, even if our dress policy is "you must wear clothes;" says nothing about pants specifically.
rianwyn From: rianwyn Date: January 12th, 2007 11:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have a cell-phone with a picture-taking-ness and a screen and it flips.
As such, when I use it, I end up with grimy smears and things over the inside screen. I find myself rubbing the screen clean with my shirt (the same way I try to clean my glasses) and crud gets stuck next to the keys and things just from my face and skin cells.

Now imagine what happens after you take your pants off. And whatever body part(s) you want to press against your new shiny MacBook... and whatever....
Please. To prolong the life of your new investment. Keep your pants on.
abmann From: abmann Date: January 13th, 2007 12:14 am (UTC) (Link)
rianwyn From: rianwyn Date: January 13th, 2007 12:15 am (UTC) (Link)
I mean, I usually keep what's in my pants away from my cell phone. But imagining if I didn't... ick.
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