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I'm feeling no buyer's remorse. Apparently a few months of saving… - Portrait of a Young Man as The Artist — LiveJournal
I'm feeling no buyer's remorse. Apparently a few months of saving and 2 years of planning, researching and genearlly cogitating buying a DSLR is all I need to be OK with a big purchase.

So, I went to The Camera Co. 1.5 miles from my house. I told the guy to line up the Nikon d50, d70 and the Canon 20d before me and answer my questions. He did so but pulled the Canon 30D because Canon no longer sells the 20D. Fine. But he also pulled the Canon 300D, AKA the Digital Rebel. I asked what was up with it and he said it's a solid camera, maybe even better than the d70. Ok, sure. Let's throw that in. It's even got a rebate going and starts $200 cheaper than the d70.

So I ask him some basic stuff like what levels of customizability each has, WB, ISO etc; how the user interfaces worked; how the lenses worked. He ran through the interfaces focusing on the Digital Rebel. I admit the Rebel had a very sleek user interface with everything functionable with one hand. The Nikon was a little slower with needing two hands to change settings. But when looking through the settings the Rebel didn't have the range of even the d50.

I asked of price. The 30D is 1400 with lense, the rebel 700, the D50 800 and the D70 1000. K, no 30D for me thanks. Too high. "But it's a good camera. 8.1 megapixels, man. 9 points of focus." 8.1 megapixels translates to about .33 inches in larger prints plus does nothing for normal print sizes in quality. "But what if you want to print poster sizes?" How would 8.1 megapixels matter at 3ft by 4ft at all? "8 Megapixels!" That's a dumbed down version of our exchange regarding megapixels and the Rebel.

I picked up each camera and felt the weight. The Rebel was nice and light but the focal range of the kit lens was terrible. Both Nikons had the same lens and excellent focal length and depth of field in my little bits of playing. The Rebel lens was a little loser, I could adjust it with my nub pretty well but it had no depth of focus adjustment (I think that's aperture). The Nikon was tougher to adjust and would likelt require moving the camera from my face. Plus the Nikon skews the weight of the camera closer to the right side. This means most of the support comes from the right hand, my only hand whch makes the Nikons far more comfortable and secure for me.

As far as function, I didn't ask him much more than which camera could adjust what setting. The guy had no idea what I started talking ISO levels and range of bracketing. i admit, though, I already knew what could do what. The Rebel has less range of adjustment and allows no control of metering and some focus. The Nikons have weird Iso steps, better WB control and changeable aperture by hand. I as highly amused that every time asked this guy something bout the nikon he ended up talking about the Rebel and how easy it was to use and how cheaper and 8 megapixels!

I steared the conversation towards printer, printing and file formats. I was kinda tired not getting my questions answered about the Nikons. Plus I wanted a moment to listen to myself. His arguements for the Rebel, obvious bias and megapixels aside, were good. It would be easier to use and faster to adjust between shooting.

That's how much my Nikon d70 with lens and 2G flash card cost. It's being sent from the East side store because they were out of all their Nikon stock. (They had plenty of Canon in stock ;P). I pick it up tomorrow!

Happy birthday to me. :)

Current Mood: excited excited
Current Music: Shaun of the Dead

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abmann From: abmann Date: July 5th, 2006 06:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
So much money though. Never spent so much before in a single day.
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back2me From: back2me Date: July 5th, 2006 06:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
Happy Birthday to you, indeed!

Have fun with your new toy. :)
abmann From: abmann Date: July 5th, 2006 06:51 pm (UTC) (Link)

I'm trying not to think of it as a toy. I plan on photography shows eventauly. :) Mm.. art.
ralinad From: ralinad Date: July 5th, 2006 06:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hey, congrats and happy birthday!

I'm biased, but the things you mention the Rebel doesn't have, it does. Aperture can be adjusted with a click-wheel at your index finger, and there is a depth-of-field preview button as well. The kit lens isn't great, so I replaced it with one that is MUCH better (but much, much more expensive)

Good luck!

abmann From: abmann Date: July 5th, 2006 06:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
Heh. I guess was remembering things incorrectly. I don't think I would have bought one regardless. My mother always used a Nikon so I have years of seeing her use it and loving it. Lots of psychological attachment. :)

You use a Rebel then?
alyska From: alyska Date: July 5th, 2006 06:44 pm (UTC) (Link)

i'm a canon girl myself, but i hope you like your new toy!

(i'm trying to save for a 30D right now. or a 5D, if i can swing it. the difference in MP is tempting.)

from what i could gather when they came out, the Digital rebel was about the same as the Canon 10D, only with slightly less functionality. then someone cracked the functionality barriers, and the only difference was a few hundred in price.

i expect many more picture postings from you, young man!
abmann From: abmann Date: July 5th, 2006 06:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
It is cool.

My family seems to be a Nikon family. At the prices I was looking though everything is pretty damn good.

I'll post more pictures soon enough. I get it tomorrow.
lady_fox From: lady_fox Date: July 5th, 2006 06:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
abmann From: abmann Date: July 5th, 2006 06:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
alibee From: alibee Date: July 5th, 2006 06:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
Happy bday! :)
abmann From: abmann Date: July 5th, 2006 07:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
zesty_pinto From: zesty_pinto Date: July 5th, 2006 07:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for this review! I've been wanting to get a digicam of my own for the sake of getting decent landscape shots and for goofing off and this definitely is something that helps quite a bit in the choice war.
abmann From: abmann Date: July 5th, 2006 07:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
DPreview.com has fantastic and incredible details reviews of every digital camera you can buy. I'm biased to Ninkons but if you're going to spend around 1k most of the cameras are damn good.
fiendishx From: fiendishx Date: July 5th, 2006 07:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's a nice camera, but why'd you go with the kit lense? That's the 18-70 job, right? I figured you'd probably boost for a 20-200 with vibration reduction.

I bet the guy didn't even bother telling you that that 8 megapixels in the 30D is actually on a slightly smaller sensor and thus has a higher noise ratio.
abmann From: abmann Date: July 5th, 2006 07:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
He didn't. I read, though, that Canon JPEG format has excellent noise reduction abilities. 'Course, I'll be shooting in RAW... or NEF or what ever silly proprietary format Nikon uses.

I didn't really have the money for the better lens right now. The kit lens seems pretty damn good for now though. I didn't do much research on lenses yet either so I want to have more knowledge before getting one.
fencert From: fencert Date: July 5th, 2006 07:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
Angrybunnyman is camera smart. Fencert is not camera smart. Fencert must instead draw pictures of his life on walls of cave. Cave wall pictures are not good like camera pictures. Women do not ask fencert to draw naughty picutres of them on cave walls. Lucky angrybunnyman!
abmann From: abmann Date: July 5th, 2006 07:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Photography is just my way around being unable to draw. :)

I started the whole nude picture thing. Funny thing with submissives is they like to be tied up. Then they can't fight it when you take pictures. :P
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abmann From: abmann Date: July 5th, 2006 09:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
Finally someone that didn't call it a toy! Thank you!

Yeah. I've been saving consistently... though not this month I guess considering I used the amount I normally save for the camera. :) Hoping to step up svings more in the future still.

I'm still having significant triuble with eating out. Last month was especially bad towards the end. I was really depressed and pressed for time. This does not facilitate cooking. I shall try to be better this month.
moocowrich From: moocowrich Date: July 5th, 2006 10:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
Happy birthday, ya crazy old man :-P

I hope it's mega-awesome.
From: thegelf Date: July 6th, 2006 02:56 am (UTC) (Link)
I hope digital photography works out for you. I couldn't make the switch from b&w darkroom to digital. I love the darkroom work too much. When I get my own place, I'll be setting up a darkroom in the basement, and we'll see how much I end up spending on that.
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