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Why does this entry keep dropping off my flist!?!
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Note: if the stupid poll remains broken, this is what it is:
Define the word, "Hipster."
Positive connotation?
Negative connotation?
Comment with answer as needed
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I was described as this yesterday. I don't think I have a good idea what it means to the populous at lrage... which in this forum means "a small, non-representative sample of freaks and geeks." :) The only, and I realy mean only, association I have with the word is thick, plastic glasses. For like the three of you that know him, hotbeatz is sort of what I think of as the hipster look.

Urban Dictionary has a few definitions:
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10. Hipster


1. Any kind of person most likely aged under...oh 35, who participate in some kind of youth subcultural urban clique; from punk, to indie rocker, goth, straight edge, metalhead, hip-hop, etc. They are fairly likely to know a great deal about their own world and very little about anyone else's.

2. A grand tradition of respected pop-cultural icons, from Oscar Wilde to Charles Bukowski to Andy Warhol to the Vice Magazine founders, who despite their influence, really kind of suck.

3. Throngs upon throngs of urban centric teengers and twenty-somethings who congregate in the "hip" neighborhoods of a town and all dress disturbing alike. They try to one step ahead of trends in clothes and music, seeking out vintage fashion and independant bands.
    Their shortcomings include:
  1. most-likely an upper/middle class upbringing
  2. general snobbery (or social-ineptitude mistaken for it) towards not only those not "with it" but also an unfamiliar hipster
  3. a disposition of only liking things not totally excepted by the mainstream
  4. alcoholism
  5. bad haircuts.

    Their exceptional qualities:
  1. despite what some detractors might assume, they are one of the more racially inclusive scenes in an urban setting
  2. they aren't too picky about beer
  3. if you need one of them to give an opinion when shopping for clothes or records, they will be invaluable...provided they don't scoff at you first
  4. that band you love never would have gotten anywhere if the hipsters weren't into them first.

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1. "Walking down Broadway in Seattle, you sure do see a lot of young hipsters tooling about."

2. "In Kerouac's 'On the Road', he paints a decent portrait of how the hipster lifestyle of the 1940's run aground with the American Dream."

3. "Ugh...there are too many hipsters at that party. Let's not go. All those girls are terrible in bed."

2. Hipster


Someone who thinks that they are being "special" and "unique" for liking some underground bullshit no one else cares about. And they pointlessly look down on people who don't know anything about indie culture, because that's the only thing they know anything about. They're quick to call the rest of the world conformists when in reality, they are the ones conforming by partaking in a "too cool for mainstream so i am going to reject it by looking and acting like a grungy asshole" way of life only to seem uber-fashionable. They just end up looking like idiots.
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Hipster: I won't drink at starbucks, it's too corporate.

Non-Hipster: I want a Louis Vitton purse because they are cool.

Hipster: You're such a conformist, haveing a Louis Vitton purse is so unoriginal. I like my purse I found in the gutter for $4 dollars.

Non-hipster: But it's fugly.

Hipster: Yah, but no one else has it. It's completely unique.

Non-hipster: That bum over there has something pretty similar though.

Hipster: You're ignorant because you can't see the real beauty in life.
I don't have time for this, I'm gonna go to my cave of an apartment and listen to some indie rock you've probably never heard of....


Non hipster: You need to see a therapist.

Hipster: I am my own therapist.

While some of definition 10 rings true, I don't see it. Maybe I just dress like such a sect but like main stream media too much. :)

Discuss!
Edit: Sorry, the poll broke for some reason. Had to repost.
For delennamachoo:
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Create your Hipster Name
Enter your last name into the following generator:
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Viola! You're own set of Hipster names!
Post this to your favorite _sterno_ blog so everyone knows about!
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Also, make your own Hipster PDA.

To justphoenix - 'Burbs Rule!

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rianwyn From: rianwyn Date: December 8th, 2005 02:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Neutral connotation isn't an option?
abmann From: abmann Date: December 8th, 2005 02:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
NO! The workld is black and white!
Silly, I left that off.
justphoenix From: justphoenix Date: December 8th, 2005 03:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
:)
abmann From: abmann Date: December 8th, 2005 03:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
Damn skippy.
I may be biased though, since I grew up very close to where you live.
From: que_emocionante Date: December 8th, 2005 04:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
negative connotation. hey i will find an article i like about hipsters for you, hang on. here.
From: que_emocionante Date: December 8th, 2005 04:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
p.s. i've been called a hipster much as i've been called a music snob and i will deny both until the day i die but here are the reasons (as far as i can tell):

1. "obscure" taste in music (really just old)
2. outward hatred of almost all new music
3. wearing of "ironic" t-shirts

i don't know, there are others, but those are the big ones.
abmann From: abmann Date: December 8th, 2005 04:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hehehe. I totally keep the peanut butter off my shirts and I don't wear those sneakers! I don't even own sneakers. :)

Funny thing though, I just started listening to Belle and Sebastian last week. I may be falling down a dark tunnel now.
moocowrich From: moocowrich Date: December 8th, 2005 04:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, definitely negative. Hipsters = LAME.

That said, Oscar Wilde is good times damnit.

Also, I hate the Urban Dictionary's rampant misspellings and ridiculousness.

I fail to see how an upper/middle class upbringing is a shortcoming. It might limit your views of the world (like any other upbringing at all), but it's certainly more advantageous than many alternatives.

I mean, really...take a look at those shortcomings. They map onto 80's rockers pretty well too. And goths. And a bunch of other groups, no doubt.

So those definitions are questionable at best. But when you get down to it, I imagine the word "hipster" is negative for most folk because of an attitude of superiority it suggests. Who cares about their fashion sense and bands when they're assholes?

(Note: not all people who like indie bands or dress in a certain way are hipsters. I mean no disrespect to those folks who don't have the problematic attitude.)
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lady_fox From: lady_fox Date: December 8th, 2005 04:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
I said like Jesse, but not near as cool. That's what I think of Hipster as, so yes, negative. Your entry is large. And you keep changing it. It's hard to keep track of all the changes.

Though it is a distraction, which I'm ok with. :)

abmann From: abmann Date: December 8th, 2005 04:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
LJ is broken today. I tried to repost a poll, but it broke. So I cut it, but it broke. Repost, cut, broke. Etc. I think now it's staying up.
justphoenix From: justphoenix Date: December 8th, 2005 04:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
Incidentally, entries keep falling off my f-list too. I mean, besides yours.
abmann From: abmann Date: December 8th, 2005 04:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think the LJ- tags are broken. Cuts seem to remove entries for me, as do the broken polls.
assfingers From: assfingers Date: December 8th, 2005 04:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
I can't help but associate the two following terms:

"hipster" and "doofus"

I think it's because of Seinfeld
abmann From: abmann Date: December 8th, 2005 04:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
Stupid Seinfeld.
Did Kramer have the apropriate tastes to be a hipster though?
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